Thursday, June 07, 2007


Trying to figure out the impact of Lucid's approval is tough. Hopefully we'll know more after next weekend, as the only coherent information I've found so far is Oxy's summary of the situation on the Fee Verte Forum, linked on his blog and quoted by Alan on his blog and the Wormwood Society Forum.

Searches for government documents on the submission or approval came up with nothing. [Still searching...] Regarding editing the Fee Verte FAQ about absinthe's legality in the US, Oxy writes:

1. Absinthes with less than (approximately) 10mg/l thujone are now potentially legal in the US.
2. Two others (apart from Lucid) have already been approved, and dozens will follow in due course.
Read the rest...


  1. This and many other articles coming out now give the impression that the laws have changed. NO Laws have changed and traditional absinthe is still illegal. These companies have just filtered out the chemical Thujone , found in wormwood so that they can pass the FDA regulations.

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    The companies offering absinthe in the US are now on a public relations / marketing campaign to give the impression that “Absinthe is now legal” In reality no laws have changed. No matter what impression they give you the finished product is “Thujone Free” according to the FDA. Of course they are downplaying the role of Thujone with some slick “organizations” promoting absinthe in the US. Not sure how the public will take it but the press is loving it. Also Green Devil Absinthe is offering a home brewing kit that comes the the un modified Grand Wormwood and is legal to sell since its not a finished food product

  2. Please do not post your misleading pile of ignorance masquerading as legitimate debate here.

    Your web site sells products which, while they may make an interesting psychoactive soup, are not "absinthe" kits at all. I can't imagine anybody would be so foolish as to buy your kits, but it seems fine and legal; I only wish you wouldn't call it absinthe-- it is not absinthe.

    Absinthe is a delicious, refreshing herbal spirit which is now legal in the U.S. after a few brands applied for and received approval from the appropriate Federal agencies.

    Technically, it seems spirits which do not prominently label themselves "Absinthe" and which contain under 10ppm of thujone may be approved.

    But, anybody would know this from reading the news. Your arguments reduce to two vague allegations:

    (1) The laws have changed in that the U.S. government is enforcing them differently now, and a few absinthes have been conditionally approved. Don't pretend to be making a legal argument, and quit trying to mislead people.

    (2) Nobody has filtered out the thujone-- you're making this up to promote your false, untested claims of high thujone content in your foul, non-absinthe macerated drinks.


    Absinthe is legal. The legal thujone level to be considered "thujone free" is a tad low but would not have excluded many preban absinthes, including Pernod Fils. The way you get absinthe that is low in thujone is not by "filtering" it out (and anyone who thinks that there is some sort of process to filter out thujone should please explain what that process is). It just happens during distillation, which is a necessary process to make real absinthe.

    Also give this a read:

    The facts, based on real scientific and historical research, are beginning to take hold. These dumb, vile-tasting steep kits with low-quality herbs are the equivalent of bathtub gin and do not even remotely represent the flavour of real absinthe.

  4. May I add something ...?